Super Lemon Haze + K2 Grow Log ScrOG

[cthullu]

put a towel with one end in the bucket and place it somewhere where the wind is blowing on it. Most likely youll see a dramatic increase in humidity compared to using just the bucket. If that isnt enough -> more towels -> increases the evaporation area.

cheap and effective

…and damn… i envy your growroom!

Another thought:
You can lower the speed on the intake slightly so you get a slightly lower air pressure inside the room -> no smell can escape other ways than through the filter/outfan.
If that were the case i guess you would have noticed on your last grow so maybe it’s no problem at all, but it’s a quite common setup to make sure it doesnt happen.

EDIT: spelling

[marijane]

@cthullu wrote:

put a towel with one end in the bucket and place it somewhere where the wind is blowing on it. Most likely youll see a dramatic increase in humidity compared to using just the bucket. If that isnt enough -> more towels -> increases the evaporation area.

cheap and effective

…and damn… i envy your growroom!

Another thought:
You can lower the speed on the intake slightly so you get a slightly lower air pressure inside the room -> no smell can escape other ways than through the filter/outfan.
If that were the case i guess you would have noticed on your last grow so maybe it’s no problem at all, but it’s a quite common setup to make sure it doesnt happen.

EDIT: spelling

Thanks for the tips! I’m wondering just how bad it is to have a low humidity. I know its not good but i’ve never heard of any plants dying from it or anything so i’m assuming it just slightly affects total yield….?

My setup wouldnt have been possible if it weren’t for my investors 😉 Its not the most efficient setup in the world but it gets the job done. There are some things i would love to have also, like a nice layer of mylar on the walls and maybe some cooltubes. Possibly another light as well but given the space i have to work with i’m very satisfied. Plus my bank roll is pretty tapped out at the moment 😥

[cthullu]

yes, the humitidy thing is a bit debated, or rather it’s most people seems to disagree with me haha.

But as a general undebatable rule: the lower the humidity the lower the danger zone of temperature becomes.

My setups always, except for that one time (*), been quite low on humidity and my experience says around 26 drgrees becomes optimal. 24-28 would been perfectly ok, but i prefer to be on 26 or slightly lower to be completely safe. Above 30 been more or less fatal.

Other people with high humidity setups says slightly above 30 is no problem.

Also it most likely is a lot dependant on strain i would say, my old Australian landrace i grew for years thrived in dry climate, but more tropical strains probably are a lot more cranky about it.

And finally, the plants early days seems to be of concern, as in my last Utopia grow the cuttings wanted it more humid than the plants from seed.
Probably they got used to it during the period in the micro-dome where they were rooted. For a while (1-2 weeks before they went in under the hps in the closet) i had to put them in the bedroom right under a slightly open window. (with aquarium lights over them) and measured it to 23 (!!) degrees cold and humid autumn air seemed to do the trick. But that strain was more cranky than others ive grown.

Super Lemon Haze and also barneys LSD seems to give ppl a little grief as well from what ive seen on the forums, but never grown them personally.

ok, rambling, back on track,

all in all, temp and humidity goes hand in hand, and lots of factors affect optimal values for the plants.

Generally i think everyone would agree high humitidy usually does speed up the veg growth, but isnt so necessary as time can simply compensate – just veg-grow till they are the size you want them to be.

Then the debatable part is during flowering and quality:

Studies shown that optimal temp/rh is really high and dont remember the rh value either in regards to THC concentration.
The little ive read about those test didnt say how ecatly that was measured or how that temp affected other things.
I still swear by that with my old AU strain i got _wicked_ results with low humitidy and 26 degrees, but i dont know if it was simply strain related, or if it gave me more sticky or denser buds albite slightly lower thc conc in it, or …
Some other grower recommends hmm i think 27 wich is very close to my findings i guess. (although i think he disagreed on the humidity thing)
I have a personal theory that the goo have several uses, one of them is preventing seeds from drying out during dry periods, hence dry climate -> more goo.
One probably could argue support for this when looking at classical hashplants.
(typically shitload of goo but tropical sativas usually higher thc but less goo)
Some claims it only has to do with UV light. Might also help against some pests and disease. Or it can be all of the above.
If someone has certain facts/findings -> let me know. And yes – i could be completely all wrong about that, it is just my theory and not facts.

All in all, i dont have any good scientific data on this, but i did grow that strain for years. So thats what it comes down to to get the best out of a particular strain the setup is tuned over time and there are so many variables and a lot of them do interact with each other… good thing is we dont always have to understand why some parameters works good, it’s enough that we understand what parameters works good for a particalar strain/setup combo

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(*) the one time i did try really high humidity i had to throw half the harvest due to mold. So i would never go there again regardless, unless maybe if growing really low-yield “fluffy” strains.

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Sorry if i rambles on too much in your thread, with risk of having confused you – heres the short version:
Unless it seems like a problem, dont worry, it’s not really that important as long as all the values are sane.
And If it becomes a problem, you can either try lowering the temp or raising the humidity.

EDIT: some spelling, and made the important stuff bold.

[marijane]

Wow great post. My temps are at 26 degrees more or less all the time right now, i just switched on my other light so we’ll see what that does. But when its -20 outside i dont see the light making too much an impact.

I’ve also read about how much humidity affects pesky bugs and the sort. My last grow i had a little problem with thrips. They came 3 weeks before harvest so it wasnt a big deal that time. But i could easily see bugs becoming a big problem if they were to be there from the beginning. Yet another reason i’m very happy to be growing in winter. Once they thicken out a bit the humidity should raise a little i’m thinkin. Its like you said though, i’d rather have a low humidity than a high one, i’ve seen some grows get completely destroyed by mold and i’m not in any rush to see that happen.

[marijane]

Hey all,

Just thought i’d post some new pics of the girls. 3 and maybe a 4th are still looking pretty bad, I’m beginning to think the seeds were just no good. They’re almost not growing at all and the leaves are kinda shriveling up 😥

It would worry me if it was happening to all of them, but it appears only in those 3-4. It looks like there’s still hope for one of them, she’s more a fighter than the others i guess.

The others are looking better and better with time and the curling in the leaves is beginning to go away completely. I’m thinking there’s probably just barely too much nutes in the soil for early seedlings but they’re getting over it pretty well now. They’re starting to smell quite nice now as well 😆

The first pic is the K2, the rest are Super Lemon Haze

K2

[drugsarewrong]

Looks fantastic so far, i took a peek in the old thread and that went great even though a few mishaps showed up along the way. Im also growing right now and i had troubles with my first batch of women who are fighting for their lives as we speak. I believe they’ll manage to make a comeback though.

I started up 2 other seeds simultaneously as the others and it already feels like i’ve got an extra fat brick of knowledge to make the next women thrive better.

I wish you great luck and in due time an awesome harvest. Looking good thus far, did you clean out and sterilize the chamber properly before you started this project? It would be a shame to get those nasty vermins living off your hard work and sucking out your yeild.

Peace mate, give those crops a long and healthy life!

[marijane]

Hello everyone,

Dropping in to post some pics of the little girls.

Most are still doing ok, they got a little stressed the other day when my life got in the way I spent the night in town and when i got back they were in need of water kinda badly. They’re recovering nicely and they should be good as new in some time. My package with the extra dirt should be coming any day now and then i’ll transplant them into their final homes.

I forgot to mention earlier the K2 i have growing is “auto-blooming” which i never heard of before so i didnt think too much of it. Well now she’s started to bud quite nicely. It looks like i wont be scrogging her with the others. And i’ll have some nice bud while i’m waiting for the Super Lemon Haze. Check below for pics.

The SLH babies that were struggling are still doing so. I doubt they’ll make it, but i can always hope. If they dont i’ll just have to scrog the others extra good

Happy Tokin!

The last two pics are the K2

[marijane]

Hey again,

Good news! My package with the dirt and digital pH meter has arrived today, which is great. I’ve now transplanted the girls into their final resting places.

I’ve got the pH stable at 6.7-6.8 which is great. I’ve also started giving them nutes at half the recommended does on the schedule, just to be safe…We’ll see how that works out. Now I just need to get a big screen to get the scrOG going. I’ll be picking that up this week.

You can see the troubled girls I mentioned in some of the pics. The rest are looking better and better with time.

[distorted]

Looking good!

[cthullu]

Hmm, damn are you giving them all those ferts already on top of using that soilmix?

I just followed the link to check it out, and it says it’s very strong and lasts almost the entire crop cycle plus the plants look like they could very well be in stages of nuteburn. (also the better looking plants looks to me like the are beginning to develop a slight version of the same symptoms…)

Using those fertz the “lite” version of their mix might have been a better choice, or you should wait to apply the liquid nutes till later, or at least give a very low dose.. max 1/4:th i would say, but probably better to give none and start with the ferts when they do show nute def instead this first grow under theese parameters.
Then the next grow you will know about when you should start with the liquid nutes to avoid a short nute def.

the gimps might have gotten damaged roots from going into that very strong soil just a tad early, if that happened there is a possibility they will grow slowly and never really recover. (happened to me once with one plant, was a sad sad specimen)

Just my oppinions, you ofcourse go with what you believe in… Or you could play it safe and follow my advice on half of them and after 2-3 weeks decide if im right or wrong

Anyway, still looking pretty good, just wanted to catch this early….

[marijane]

Thanks for the advice. The only reason i’ve been starting is because they’re quite a ways into the grow, and i hear 4 or so weeks is when nutes should be added. I’ll flush next time to be certain i suppose, depending how they look of course.

It was a quite low dose, something like 25mL per 10L of TNT complex which is the weakest of the nutes i have, used for the veg state. Also used 2 drops supervit which says should be used throughout the entire cycle and contains “trace elements”…whatever the hell that means. And a dose of root complex to help them cope with the stress of the transplant.

Also discovered that the pH had been all out of whack, glad i got the meter. It’s kind of strange actually…..Last grow I used those little paper pH sticks and it showed that it was too low. Now after testing it was too high, so they had been getting a pH value that was much too high. Probably a cause for some of the symptoms we’re seeing.

Its a real shame about the little struggling ones

[marijane]

Ok. So today i couldnt get that possible nute burn out of my head so i flushed the shit outta them, once and for all. Now i dont have to think about that anymore *whew*

On a seperate note, i’ve been reading around and read that it can also be good idea to LST them in preparation for a scrOG. So i tied them down this morning and i’ll be doing that a little while i’m waiting to get my net, cant hurt i suppose. These ladies are gonna be BEASTS by time i start flowering them. I know i’ll have to wait a little longer until harvest but its very worth it in my eyes.

Happy Tokin

[ninj4n]

Now thats some nice green
good work!

[cthullu]

@marijane wrote:

Thanks for the advice. The only reason i’ve been starting is because they’re quite a ways into the grow, and i hear 4 or so weeks is when nutes should be added.

Yes, that does apply to standard soils – the peat, sand and chickenpoo mixes – those usually runs out in 3-5 (more towards 3) weeks, but special mix you have however……

With some luck the little ones will recover..

Sounds like it gonna be a mighty harvest if all goes well

[marijane]

Thought i’d upload pics of the LST in action. I’m really excited about this! Its my first time and its alot easier than i thought, I can already see a difference. The little offshoots of getting bigger every day