OG: Polistillslag? Dementi. RC utbejlad?

[Flagellant]

Mystiken tätnar. Informationen från Cannabisculture
har uppdaterats. Har RC flytt fältet? Beror det på
maktskiftet i Canada?
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4638.html

Jodie Giesz-Ramsay wrote:

“Richard Calrisian” of Overgrow and Heaven’s Stairway Disappears
Updated on February 7th

Did he take the money and run? Or did “RC” go into hiding?

The owner of Heaven’s Stairway Seeds, CannabisWorld.com and Overgrow.com has apparently dropped his websites and businesses, and has taken off with everything.

No one knows who “Richard Calrisian” is. No one has come forward with information about the websites. There have been no busts, no arrests linked to the owners. The servers seem to be reachable, but are not hosting the websites anymore.

Was RC scared of being investigated? Did he want to stop paying for an enormous database of information (Overgrow.com)?

Everyone who sells seeds seems to be fleeing North America and going to Amsterdam, Switzerland, Spain, England – the far more progressive countries. They don’t want to be picked up by the USA or Canadian governments. Now that the Conservatives are elected in Canada, there’s far more risks for people operating marijuana enterprises.

[Flagellant]

Men på International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums
ligger sedan i går en klistrad länk med titeln

Finally some news – RC is out on bail
http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=21351

[Thc-Junkie]

Den här historien stinker rutten fisk på något vis.
Marc Emery har dementerat allt snack om en eventuell razzia mot OG.
Här har en kille ringt runt till alla häkten i montreal och inte hittat RC överhuvudtaget.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1210083&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Här är en stor tråd startad av Marc Emery.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1209598&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=1

“It would appear that there are no arrests, no police seizures of servers, RC is in Europe or Asia and has taken the money and ran. The servers are shutdown by RC and it may be no one is at risk at all.”

[cliff]

En annan har ju tagit på sig murvelkostymen och pratat med pressavdelningen på kanadensiska ambassaden. I tisdags morse fick jag det här tillbaka:

Kanadensiska Ambassadens pressavdelning wrote:

Hej cora,

jag har gjort lite efterforskningar angående din fråga om “Richard Calrisian” och jag måste be att få hänvisa dig till myndigheterna i Quebec/Montreal.
Vi på ambassden kan inte involvera oss i ärenden gällande privatpersoner, så jag måste be dig att själv kontakta de ansvariga myndigheterna i Kanada. Rättegångsmaterial är i vissa fall möjligt att få tag på t.o.m på internet, men om jag har förstått saken rätt så har ingen rättegång ännu hållits i det aktuella fallet.

Du kan fortsätta dina efterforskningar genom att kontakta:

http://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/english/joindre/renseign-a.htm, Court of Quebec, general information

http://www.justice.gouv.qc.ca/english/joindre/palais/montr-a.htm , Quebec Courthouse

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/qc/contact/contact_e.htm, RCMP i Quebec

Lycka till och tveka inte att höra av dig igen om du behöver ytterligare information!

Med vänlig hälsning,

Cultural Affairs and Media Officer

Embassy of Canada

[cliff]

Mera skvaller om Overgrow:

I have just talked to RC – Servers are OK, RC is not…

Plural of Mongoose wrote:

I have just talked on the phone with RC. I know RC, so lets not have any ‘was it really him’ type responses.

RC shut down the services on the servers – at this point in time the servers have NOT been seized. It appears that OG and CW info is safe and intact – woo hoo!

RC was arrested, and charged concerning the import/export of cannabis seeds – no other charges at this time.

RC has been home for a bit, but is prohibited from using the internet.

RC approved me posting this.

Finally, RC will be issuing a statement through a third party as soon as he has the chance, letting the community know what the situation is.

Could everyone now stop all the hand-wringing, and pull together.

Our thoughts are with you RC – we all wish you the best of luck, and want you to know the community will be here for you.

Mongoose

EDIT: MORE INFORMATION HAS ARISEN SINCE THIS POST WAS MADE. PLEASE SEE THE THREAD RC is working with the Authorities. OG and CW IP’s were logged.

…och då syftar han på nedanstående:

RC is working with the Authorities. OG and CW IP’s were logged.

Plural of Mongoose wrote:

About 48 hours ago I broke my 26 month long self-imposed exile from the internet to post the results of my converstations with RC. Nobody else seemed to the the will or ability to track down and talk to him, and my concerns for the industry and the people I love who participate in it out weighed the enjoyment of my recent relative obscurity. I was sure any calls were going to be monitored, but hey – it’s not like my name has never been associated with cannabis seeds, eh. So I called RC. Twice.

The first call was to get his story of what happened to him, and the servers for Overgrow and Cannabis World, and to offer support, financial and otherwise. I had been in contact with a few friends and business acquaintances, and had passed the virtual hat around – to the tune of well over US$50,000 pledged to assist RC, with no strings attached. RC said he would have to talk to his lawyers first for instructions on handling such a large donation. OK, fine. RC has all my contact numbers (always had, btw) and I expected a call the next day with instructions from his lawyers.

After my first call to him, I noted that Marc Emery from Cannabis Culture had a front page story saying RC had split the country, etcetera. Fuck. So, after some introspection, I decided to take the plunge – I was returning to my long lost home, the internet. RC had told me he would be releasing a statement, drawn up with the assistance of his lawyers, within 24 hours. Now, I had taken RC at his word as to what had happened, and I thought his clients, suppliers and members of his sites should have at least an idea of what happened, so I called him back, and said so. He agreed I could post what I put in my first post on the internet in 26 months.

Some things RC said to me didn’t sit well with me. I did wake the guy up, but still… my instincts were making my hackles rise. As time passed, I kept thinking – who the fuck doesn’t leap on a US$50,000 gift? My instincts said I wouldn’t hear from his lawyers about it. I was correct.

Now, I have known RC’s real name – and much more information about him, from back in the day when I made a deal with ~Shabang~ to buy out his 1/2 of Overgrow. I started doing the phone call thing to newspapers, the Quebec Provincial Police, RCMP public affairs office, blah, blah, blah. No record of an arrest. No record of bail or release. No records for RC, period. I had a couple of phone calls with ~Shabang~ as well, as he is one of the few people in the world I felt comfortable brain-storming with some of the information I was working with. I trust ~S with my life.

I called everyone I knew – and I know a fuckload of folks – to try and pry out some facts. I got a ton of calls, PM’s and emails, and the picture they were painting wasn’t jiving with some ‘facts’ that RC gave me. In fact, the fucker lied to me – to you – to the industry.

Just after midnight last night, I got a call from Marc Emery. Some of you may have heard of him. If you want to Marc bash, stay the fuck outta this thread. I’ve been in this industry for quite some time, and I don’t believe in tearing down anyone who has the guts and determination for a cause that he does. If you don’t like doing business with him, then don’t. I have managed to negotiate this industry for years without hurting and name calling of people who are, in my eyes, on the same side. (Just ask Dr. Chronic – shortly after his site launched on OG – and when Gypsy was, as usual acting like an asshole and treating the Doc like shit on the boards, his site went down – hardware failure. That day was the first time I talked to the Doc – I called him and offered to host his site until his hardware was repaired. He declined, but that was the basis of a solid business relationship with him, one of my competitors. I have since met the Doc, and he is one of those truly rare finds – an honest to goodness decent and nice man. I would like to think I can call Dr. Chronic my friend, and I won’t put up with any Doc bashing here either End of rant)

Emery and I chatted for over 1/2 an hour. At the outset, I was clear that I couldn’t give him any information, but we could discuss what we both had knowledge of. I can tell you now that Emery had RC’s real name for quite some time, and had been checking high and low, much like I had been, and had found no trace. Emery gave me a who’s who list of people who know RC – in some cases for decades – and who RC had shunned any form of contact with since this all started. He quite graciously offered me all they had found out, and didn’t pressure me for information in return. His concern for anyone affected by the fallout from this is genuine. The industry is in an uproar, and I hadn’t seen anyone else with people working the phones trying to unearth the truth. By approximately 12:53 AM (GMT) Mr. Marc Scott Emery had earned my respect. We ended our chat, but now I still had more questions.

Rumours, speculation and innuendo filled the forums everywhere, and my instincts were screaming by now. Several details RC had given me were blatantly false, but not a smoking gun. Not yet.

And then, this morning at 10:30 AM (GMT) my phone rang. It was an old acquaintance of mine – and he had brought me a smoking gun. He had done business with RC, and RC paid him by check. The check was made out to a business that has nothing to do with cannabis or cannabis seeds. It was the only time that business had ever negotiated a payment from anyone in the industry. And he had just been raided, with the warrant looking for cannabis, cannabis seeds, and financial records. Fortunately, the raid was, well – a bust. Nothing was found, cops were red-faced, and my friend was fine. And pissed off. There is only one person who could have pointed the police to his business. Mr. Richard Baghdadlian, known to you as RC.

I don’t doubt that RC was raided, and I don’t doubt that his home and business were searched. In fact, I have confirmation they were. He was not arrested. He was at home when I called him, and has since shut off all contact with anyone. I called his lawyers (that little deal a few years ago with ~S, me, RC and OG had left me with all kinda interesting contacts) and they informed me they were not able to contact RC.

So, I’m gonna say it – and lemme tell you, this ain’t easy, but now it’s time to face some hard facts.

Richard Baghdadlian is co-operating with the authorities to save his own ass, at the expense of breeders, clients, and tens of thousands of members on his sites.

Anyone who had any financial transactions with RC in any way is at risk.

Anyone who posted on OG or CW is at risk. Those forums are gone, and will never be back – the security of every member has been comprimised.

I don’t believe IP’s were not logged on OG and CW. ~Shabang~ and I discussed this, and how ~S had originally set up the null logs, and db records. Since then, however, RC had instituted many ‘anti-troll’ features on the boards. Lemme ‘splain…

Ask any troll here – if they posted from, say Proxy A one day, and then 3 days later from Proxy B, using the same handle, and admin got tired of them. So, they IP ban Proxy B, while the troll is still signed in. That’s how RC would like you to believe it was done. However, if they then tried using a different handle, and Proxy A – well, damned if that one wasn’t blocked as well. I can guarantee you that RC had gone back to some default settings to log IP’s for everyone, all the time. There is no doubt.

RC is a rat.

OG and CW logged IP’s.

The servers weren’t seized – they didn’t need to seize them – RC has given them complete access to the database records.

People are getting busted based on contact with RC.

I have given oldpink the heads-up a couple of hours ago that I was going to write this up and post it here. Kindly don’t tear him up – he is working hard with little information, and is doing the best he can.

As many OG and CW refugees are also hanging at http://www.hg420.com, I’ve just got off the phone with Doc Chronic as well, so word of this will get out. (That’s important, as that snivelling cunt-rag Gypsy likes to delete any quotes from me over at ICMag. Fuck off Gypsy, and stay outta my thread.)

If I have more information to offer later, I’ll post it up in this thread.

If you have some information to give me, email is [email protected], or give me a call – from a safe phone, of course, at 07766 871 905 in the UK, 0044 7766 871 905 in Europe, and from N. America use 01144 7766 871 905.

Take care everyone, I hope you’re all safe.

Love,

Plural of Mongoose

PS – if yer gonna quote this post over at other sites, kindly quote the entire post, thank you very much. Mongoose

[Hr Sanders]

Det fortsätter:

Plan B wrote:

26th February 2006, 06:01 PM

Gypsy Has Left The Building!

Well alot of people thought i was full of shit when i said the whole OG/RC/Gypsy thing was a scam, well to all those people that torn there grows down and lost lots, go thank gypsy! The game is over now, and gypsy is leaving the game! The sun will shine again, but everything is in ruins, it’s time to band together!

Check this out!

Gypsy Nirvana wrote:

Yesterday, 06:11 PM

…Hey…..I’m Away!

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Due to current stresses and strains…..I feel it necessary to make an abrupt change in life……

..so I am going to hand over 100% of G.N.L.T.D. to the other director (Nicky) to take care of and grow……this will involve Seedboutique and Seedbay also, so bear with us during the transition period………I need to take a long earned rest and change of life from this bizz…….so it’s best that I hand over the reigns to some one else……

I.C.Mag and the Dam shop will be looked after by OP…..

….I wish you all well and hope that you understand and bear with us …..I.C.Mag will carry on regardless…..

Dutchgrown is currently unwell so is not readily contactable either……

…Thanks….Gypsy

Also from mongoose….

Quote:

Gypsy has retired.

icmag.com rightfully belongs to Gypsy Nirvana Ltd, which is now 100% controlled by Nicky. She is out of the country now. She will make the decision on who will run it and how it will be ran. No changes will be made there for at least 2 weeks, to allow things time to settle. I will not be involved in running icmag.com or any other forum.

RC is apparently facing some charges, and I do not know the details, and won’t for sure until I see him. He has indicated through channels that he had shut the servers down and not said anything as he was hoping things would be resolved quickly. When they weren’t the problems had started. I don’t know if I believe this or not, and a talk with RC and an examination of the server itself, logs, bandwidth, etc will be done by an independent security company before any statement is made on security on that site.

If the community wishes it, I will re-launch OG and turn it over to them. If they don’t want it, I will have a nifty, expensive, desktop growing resource

The information in the FAQ and Strainguide will be public domain, available to run copies on any website that asks, for free.

More details coming – I’m working as fast as I can.

Here’s gypsy’s goodbye thread
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=23297

It’s time to rebuild!

Detta hittade jag här: http://www.hg420.com/showthread.php?t=13608
Plural of Mongoose’s originaltråd finns någonstans på https://www.planetganja.com

Idag ska Gypsy möta PoM i domstol rörande misshandel. Alla som vill är inbjudna att bevittna saken av PoM någonstans i Kingston upon Thames, Surrey (om jag minns rätt, tid och plats finns i någon av PoM’s trådar)
Det ryktas att Gypsy är i Grekland.

Trådarna är långa och det är långt mellan guldkornen i dem, men de kan vara ganska underhållande.

/ Hr Sanders önskar er trevlig fortsatt läsning.

[daddy]

Humma, jag har svårt för lååånga engelska texter.. jag tror jag har förstått det mesta, men det finns ingen som kan sammanfatta det lite kort på svenska?

Som jag har förstått det är Gypsy/RC “the bad guys”.. :

Det betyder väl att ingen här nånsin kommer handla ifrån tex seedsdirect.to?

[Hr Sanders]

RC was charged!! http://www.hg420.com/showthread.php?t=13689

Mark Emery @ Cannabis Culture wrote:

UPDATE

On Monday, February 27, it was confirmed by myself that charges of some kind were laid by the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) against Richard Baghdadlian and 6 others on February 7, 2006, where Baghdadlian and others had bail determined.

EVNING UPDATE (monday)

We now have copies of the charges from the regestry office

Samanfattning:
RC +6till anhölls 31 januari och 200’000 frön samt cb&kokain(e.dyl) beslagtogs.
Kom ut mot borgen. Och knep käft om det.

Cannabiscomunityna OverGrow, CannabisWorld, samt fröbutiken HeavensStairway (och dess europeiska motsvarighet) försvann från weben.
Vilda spekulationer på nätet.

Gypsy (som tydligen under lång tid betett sig skurkaktigt) ger kontrollen över Gypsy Nirvana LTD till den andra delägaren (Nicky, som skött det praktiska på seedsdirect innan Gypsy (personen) fick/försökte få firman att gå omkull (och dirigerade om SD till seedboutique)) samt seedboutique och seedbay, ICmag. Skötseln av butiken i Amsterdam samt icmags forum överlåts till OP (OldPink).

RC åtalas. RoyalCanadianMountedPolice håller preskonferens om “det största (möjligen enda?) tillslag deras cannabisbekämpningsenhet gjort (tillslaget mot RC&company) sedan bildandet 2004”

Det finns tydliga luckor i sammanfattningen ovan, men pga alla rykten/skvaller/beskyllningar är det lite knepigt att riktigt veta vad som faktiskt hänt och vad som är spekulationer/förtal.

/ Hr Sanders.

[Hr Sanders]

Avslutningsvis(?):
Glada nyheter från PoM’s signatur på PlanetGanja

Quote:

I am currently at the lawyers, and will be tied up with them until March 3, 2006. I will not be responding to inquiries or PMs until then. My lawyers are working on getting CW / OG back within a short period of time. Kindly bear with me a short while during this difficult time.

/ Hr Sanders.

[hightower]

Det er sluppet følgende info vedrørende arrestasjonen av RC og de påfølgende hendelser:

Quote:

THE RCMP DISMANTLES AN INTERNATIONAL DRUG
DISTRIBUTION NETWORK ON THE INTERNET

MONTRÉAL, Tuesday, February 28, 2006 – The members of the Marihuana Grow Operations Enforcement Team of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police concluded their first major operation when they uncovered a Montreal based criminal organization involved in the trafficking, importation and exportation of cannabis seeds, as well as in conspiring for the purpose of cannabis cultivation via the Internet. This operation was launched in November 2004 under the name “Courriel” and culminated with the seizure of 200,000 cannabis seeds and the arrest of seven persons.

Project “Courriel” revealed that Richard Hratch BAGHDADLIAN, 38, from Marsan Street in Montreal, and six other persons operated the Heaven’s Stairway company. This company was on the web claiming to be the North American supplier for indoor and outdoor cannabis production.

The cybercompany Heaven’s Stairway used the Internet sites hempqc.com, cannabisworld.com, overgrow.com, eurohemp.com, cannabisseeds.com, and cannabisbay.com. These sites were used to order cannabis seeds online and obtain information on cannabis cultivation. These Internet sites also suggested ways to outsmart the police.

(Cliquer sur les photos pour un agrandissement)

Richard Hratch BAGHDADLIAN was the instigator, head and main beneficiary of the illicit company Heaven’s Straiway. The other six accused acted as couriers and performed other duties for the company. They are Geoffrey CHAN, 33, Maria Cristina CIVITILLO, 32, Natalie BAGHDADLIAN, 40, Manuel Bento FERNANDES, 45, Christopher ALMOND, 38, and Teresa RODRIGUES, 39. They all live in Montreal except Christopher ALMOND who lives in Ville Saint-Laurent.

The organization processed approximately 30 orders of cannabis seeds a day averaging $100 each. The seeds were sent to clients by regular mail.

The seven people are facing 49 charges under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and the Criminal Code of Canada. The offences were committed in Quebec, Canada, North America, the United Kingdom and elsewhere in the world between March 12, 1998 and January 31, 2006.

Nine searches were carried out during the week of January 30, 2006 in order to gather evidence that criminal activities had been committed. The searches were conducted in Montreal and Laval, as well as in the residences of three of the accused, a business, three post office boxes, a vehicle and a safe-deposit box.

These searches led to the seizure of 200,000 cannabis seeds, more than $183,362 in US currencies and $14,000 in Canadian currencies, both in cash and postal money orders, three one-kilogram gold bricks, a Harley-Davidson motorcycle, a Mazda RX8 and many purchase orders. Since the searches were conducted, 272 orders have been intercepted by the police.

The amount of seeds seized during the searches could have made it possible to operate approximately 500 cannabis greenhouses of 400 plants each, which represent 42 million joints sold on the street.

The seven accused are liable to 10 years’ imprisonment. Since the possession of cannabis seeds is illegal under Schedule II of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act, clients of the network could also receive a visit from the police.

It should be noted that Project “Courriel”, a first in Canada, is the fruit of the work of the new Marihuana Grow Operations Enforcement Team. This new drug enforcement team is one of the seven teams established by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police across Canada in 2004 to combat the scourge of marihuana. The main objectives of these teams are to interdict drugs before they arrive in our communities and to target and destroy the infrastructure and the networks used by criminal organizations involved in marihuana production. These organizations constitute a threat to public safety and well-being.

Merk at 272 innkommende ordre har blitt tatt av politiet. Om du har bestilt frø fra Heavens Stairway i perioden 15. januar frem til dags dato bør du tømme huset ditt fullstendig for cannabisrelaterte objekter. Dette inkluderer også å fjerne spor på datamaskinen din.

[reaper]

[hightower]

Lenke til kilden:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=23490&page=1&pp=15

Her er en video om beslaget:
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=85532972-8d76-403c-9d2a-b0e790702e7a#

Trykk på “Mike Armstrongs report”.